Dan 0:00
All right, here we are. I think we're live. Welcome everyone. All right here with John and Kevin, we're just getting started. Few minutes late, after all the work we went through at the summit to emphasize that you got to start on time and end on time, right.
John 0:13
When did we say that?
Dan 0:14
We never did. So. We tried, but it never worked. playing the music helps a lot. Anyway, welcome, everyone. So thanks for being here today. We're gonna have some fun today and answer some questions, I hope. Hey, Scott, how you doing? Looks like we got a bunch of people logged in. I see. Michael Moore, Marnie, and I, Aaron. Me, Aaron. Hey, Aaron. Missing the summit already. Hello. I know. I finally got I got two nights of awesome sleep. So I'm ready to grow again. So let's go have another summer. Not two weeks. Got my new duck cup that I picked up in here. And I just stopped and we back at duck village. Through as we left the the ton of duck I mean, we drove
John 1:10
the ducks. Did you see any ducks?
Dan 1:12
Ducks everywhere? Yeah. Love the ducks. So cool. I thought we'd start out today having a little fun and share a few pictures from our summit. And I was just going through my spent the last hour going through them. And I barely phased all the pictures. I mean, I get so damn many pictures. And I got pictures I gotta get from Renee. And from you, John and Patti. And, yeah, so we just had so much fun. It just it was it was really unlike anything we've ever done before. So, I mean, we've done the builders show, if we didn't call them some, it's just wondering, we can't stay and learn type events. Yeah, this truly was a summit in this truly was. For me anyway, it was life changing. So I've made some decisions about some things moving forward that are fairly, totally influenced by what I what happened in the last few weeks. So no good for the chief community. So I'm looking forward to moving forward with that. I was going to well, let's just jump into that. So, John, where are you looking at today?
John 2:21
can stand North Carolina. Sitting in a little city park we've been camping in for the last few days.
Kevin 2:30
Cool. You still haven't made it out in North Carolina?
John 2:33
No. I had to stop and work.
Dan 2:37
Living the laptop lifestyle. Little boy. Yeah. Cool. All right. So we are going to spin the wheel a bit. But first. Definitely a great event. Thanks, sir. You know, we missed you there. Come on. No, you should have been there. I'm just teasing. Let me get to my pictures. And let's run through these really fast. And then we'll jump into spinning the wheel for some different topics. You guys get ready with your questions, because half of the spots on the wheel are q&a questions. So you get to ask questions. And the other half are just some things some, some takeaways from the summit that we came back with. And if anybody on the call here today was at the summit, you had some takeaways for sharing with us. I haven't even had chance to go through all the testimonials that you guys have sent me so keep them coming. I'm looking forward to it. But let's just genuine share my screen. I'm not seeing my I can do it here. Nevermind I gotta move my screen over a little bit. Was having camera issues. Okay, present share screen and I want to share your screen this screen share. There we go. So let's just start I'm going to rip. You know, we got to get to the summit. So I'm getting there with Mary. This was the cutest thing I've ever seen. Swansboro before the summit, it was parked. I was at a corner and I saw this this duck just walked up in there in a window with the cat
Kevin 4:23
longingly at the water.
Dan 4:26
I don't know that it was called the something to do with fish. So I'm sure it had something to do with that. And there's John and Patty and their band so cool.
John 4:36
Well this was gonna go on on
Dan 4:39
you would have cleaned it up a little bit better. That's alright. So this is we're loading up to get ready to go the summit so I'm sure you guys that were at the summit appreciate all the work that that Linden and everybody put out to put this thing together, Linda and
John 4:55
we had we had so much food coming from Linda's house that I had to stop And then our trailer because it was gonna overload it.
Dan 5:02
There's a little bit of the food portion of it, they shot for three days before the event to get ready for it. And here's the trailer we're loading up and who were at the summit. And guess what's going on in the background. And just what Renee is not paying any attention to
John 5:19
that. That's the Super Bowl. We had I missed, I missed that I was with a client working
Dan 5:27
okay. But chief as he usually does, so it was pretty cool. Here's where we before we got set up. Here's the room we are in January working away. And you're just the gang in the kitchen starting to perfect prepare food Robin is was there to help out. And here we are. We're all set up day one getting ready to go. I think we're just doing a few announcements up front. I'm not even sure what day this was. I just popped some pictures together here real quick. Here's a picture of the dining room empty. And then here's rose from our cotton dumplings coming up. There's sauerkraut and dumplings doesn't look very good, but it really is good. Here's a group here we are in our training lab. And one of the days I see Robins doing one presentation. And here you guys are getting ready to go drive down the beach. So yes, we did have lots of fun during all of this event. So okay, here we are in the hot tub. Then we move forward. Here's her name. He's teaching with his group the first week. Here we are outside the thing. This was a common theme throughout the event off the hugging going on. So it was pretty cool. That's what tends to happen at these events. Kevin and I took a stroll on the beach, actually a stroll on bikes. We were driving on the beach on John's electric boats. Here we are, what was this one was he Oh, this was Robin, and one of the lunchtime chat sessions. That was kind of fun. We really had a lot of fun with those those on the second week, dogs making dinner on my table teaching. Here they are in the kitchen, Chris did a really good job in his pictures, he took some great shots and should have hit him today for the second week. Pictures are really, really good. This was again, common theme everywhere having meals together. And this is where the real learning happened. That people talking to each other about their business and things that are going on in their world. That was you know, when it comes to something like this, there's nothing like it. It's just really cool. Here's looking down. There was Parker, getting shot by his buddy. And here we are in front of the wild Black Stallion statue in front of the house. So this was our first week group. And I do believe I have to apologize to the second week script because I don't have my pictures in there yet. And here's the team. Here's our whole team. We are the this is the game that made this all possible. So thanks to all of you guys. This was just an absolute phenomenal event. So yes, we did a lot of fun. It was a lot of work, but it was very, very, very rewarding. So there we go with that. And let's keep rolling here. Here's the second week, we changed Rene's training room around a little bit to accommodate more people. So that worked out really well. He was opening he was done in the bottom of the circular stairway here and worked out really well. And off to the right of that there was a bar. Here we are talking about as builts one of the things we did a bunch of evening sessions and talk shop. So this was really fun. We did Chief Architect all day long. And then evenings we have different we had sessions on marketing on sales on as builts we did the Hot Seat thing, which was really cool. To me, that was one of the funnest parts of the whole event where people just got to share their frustrations and things that are going on their business and successes as well. And here we are again. This year we're getting ready for a little left right center. To say that was who it was. That would be a total understatement. 31 people playing left right center. That was that was a heck of a pot that you won, John. Nice to know.
John 9:13
Yeah, I think I recovered all the dollars I've lost over the years.
Dan 9:17
And then probably and then some so that was pretty cool. Really a fun, fun event. Oh, here we are. This is more people are chimed in. So can you tell we're having fun playing with our youngster there. This is Jackson. He was there with his father 14 year old and he's there learning chief architect and a little bit about business. Kind of a long story. Not gonna get into it right now, but it was pretty cool. This is a pretty common theme guys sitting around the bar, having a beverage and chat and shop. I mean, you guys saw just about all the problems in the chief architect world I think
John 9:57
except for that one.
Dan 9:58
Do you forgot one? Okay. One. Yeah, go back and work on that one. Yeah, pretty cool. Here's our icon board, printed out all the 1200 46 icons and or buttons and Chief Architect and I put them on a banner on the wall. That was kind of fun.
John 10:14
We tell Aaron what the pool table was.
Dan 10:17
The pool table that was right behind where Rene was speaking was on the other side of that wall. That doorway was that those are bedrooms back here. Okay. There was actually two pool tables, there was one in the pool room to Word where I was staying. And let's see, nope, took my wife and daughter to the beach. It was an beautiful day. And oh, I didn't realize I put this on with my family in in the older bit and not Swansboro. And here, we did take this is the last day I was in Swansboro. We we left the cleaned up on Sunday, we left on Monday checked out. As usual, we left the building in perfect condition for the cleaning crew to come in. That's one of my goals, whenever we rent a big place or rent anything is to leave it better than we found it. So I think we accomplished that very much so and then headed to Swansboro on Monday. This was Tuesday. I got to spend some time on the beach after I had him mastermind session with a group. And it was a beautiful, beautiful day it got almost it did get to 80 degrees that day. We're so fortunate. Can you see, that's all I got. So if you want, I could open the folder and go to the other 500 pictures I've got but I don't think everybody had cared for that. So we won't do that. And wouldn't put people through that. So guys, hope you enjoyed that. It was a lot of fun. You guys got anything you want to add to that?
Kevin 11:51
I think he did a nice summary. That was a it was a big trip. And anybody who missed it really missed it. It was it was sensational. You know, it was little little wearing for those of us that were there for the entire two weeks. But I think a one week trip would have been fantastic for anyone. And we sure all of us learned a lot.
Dan 12:11
We did. We did. I know I did. That's part of you know, there's nothing like being there staying together. I mean, yes, we can go to a class in the classroom. And you're going to learn a bunch. And that works. That works great. And you know, when time is an issue? Yeah, there you go. Doing an event like this. It's a lot of work. It was a big deal. Without my family, they're cooking all the meals, they wouldn't have happened. I mean, again, if they wouldn't have been there, we would have been in a lot of frozen pizzas. A lot of them and but the food, the old saying, come for the food stay for the training. But after the second day, that's what everybody was saying. Yeah. Okay, now I get no, I get it. But let's do this. Let's spin the wheel. I got. I mean, I was just we shared some ideas here. And I just I just asked the guys that were there. Unfortunately, Renee and Robin couldn't be here with us today. Renee is on taking a break. So kudos to you, Renee. I don't know if you're on the call or not. But if you are high, Delta he is because he's, what did he say when he was gone? So you go into some boarding? Boarding? Snowboarding? Yeah. Oh, cool, though. He's going somewhere warm. But he's the sport kind of guy and Robin is teaching a class right now.
Kevin 13:38
Look at that comment from Aaron.
Dan 13:41
Oh, there you go. That's kind of cool. Thank you, Aaron.
John 13:44
I think that's a new slogan
Dan 13:47
of summer camp with the value of a master's degree. Thank you, Margaret. Hi. I'm Chip GPT. I did not see that. If that one lands. We'll talk about that. Let's spin the wheel and talk about a few things. We'll see where it lands here. All right, so we're open to q&a. anybody on the call? Do you have a q&a? John and Kevin, you want to add a q&a to this?
John 14:16
I got a couple questions here. Okay. Can we adjust the default size for wall blocking?
Dan 14:24
Just the default size for wall blocking. What are we going to find that in the framing probably. So let's go. Let's check our defaults in our framing. And see if we have any options for that blocking inline staggered cross section. We're going to go to Wall options wall framing. Connections blocking exterior interior staggered blocking. I don't think so. I think the blocking is going to be the same size as the studs
Kevin 15:00
This question may have arisen from a comment that was made at, I don't remember what's week one or week two about the possibility of doing wall blocking in showers for safety rails and things like that, where it'd be nice if you could put a, you know, two by 12 blocking in there, as opposed to two by four behind a wall reel. So,
Dan 15:20
we could do that, but you're gonna have to do it manually. I don't think there's any way to do that automatically. And let me show you how you could do that real quick. And let's see. And by the way, for those, Kevin is, you'll probably see you more often on our designers show. Kevin is, Kevin, tell your story real quick. You got 10 seconds, not you got to you got 30 seconds.
Kevin 15:46
I am a I'm a creative ironist I, I am a creative person who happened to succeed in business. So I am trying now to teach others the same thing. And I'm now moving my business into more of a coaching role than than a design build role. And I'm trying to, to, I don't know help others and I, my kids don't want my business. So I want to turn it over. I want to turn my knowledge over to other people
Dan 16:15
to kids don't watch your construction business. No. I mean, you've been doing construction contracting for a long, long time. Yeah, yeah. And you finally hung up your contracting license, and are now doing coaching consulting. And everybody on the call or watching this recording, if you ever need any help with your business is your guy is your guy that can help with cheat quite a bit too. I think one thing or two about the program a little bit, I'm gonna go ahead and frame a wall, it's turned the frame alternative framing on here. So when you see the framing in a wall like this, to we've got that framing right there. Now, you can edit this framing in two places. So if you need to put a block somewhere, you could just take one of these studs, and copy it anywhere within the wall. And see I do have to drag off of it though. So I'm going to show you do have to drag it, you can't just copy paste. So I'm going to grab that I'm gonna pull it, I can rotate that I can make it a bigger board if I want to. And then I could go like this and put it in the wall. And, again, use your point to point I'm going to snap that from I'm in a chief settings. Copy of Chief. Alright, so there's a board I just made a copy of if you want to show that now, when you click on the wall in, you hit this little icon right here to show the 3d framing of that wall. Not gonna look like 3ds can look like a 2d drawing. But here's that board, I just made a copy of right there. And if you just need to show a part of it, you know, you don't need to show it all the way you can do that. Oops, like you can rotate it too. So there you go. So you can do that all day long. And to show the blocking in there. And I could open the dialog, if you want that to be three quarter blocking, you could do that. So if you that's just supposed to be a piece of plywood, just make it three quarters of an inch thick. And then you can make it any size you want. So that would be a nice way to show the blocking in a shower area, you might want to include a picture of this frame this framed wall along with your plan. So if you felt like you need to reposition that. So you could make a note on the floorplan with blocking here, you could make a note in a 3d elevation like I was just showing you. Or you could bring up a 3d view of the framing. And you'd be able to see that blocking right there. You could make a you can take a picture of this and make a note of it on the layout page if you wanted to. So a lot of different ways to do blocking and walls Good question. Because that is something that's really important when you're doing those kinds of things.
Kevin 18:57
We got a little bit more explanation for Norman who asked the original question you see that?
Dan 19:04
No. Remember I'm watching the screen over here you guys are seeing the comments over there. So New Zealand we do rose at 800 High and this is not an auto frame feature yet.
John 19:17
And I'm gonna have to say goodbye for a little bit. Hopefully I'll get back on
Dan 19:22
Okay, sounds good John. Thanks for 800 Hide your rows rows of what Norman Rosa blocking so so the idea is to get to get your blocking in once and then you can multiple copied if you wanted to. So that'd be another option again, just like any other thing. I could take that that right there. I can use the multiple copy function. And I could say you know every 16 inches I want to make a copy of the framing and see how it highlighted That wall stood item there because this is a wall framing item. I have to do the spacing here. So every 16 inches, it's gonna leave a copy of that item in here. Didn't seem right. Was it doing it's not doing 16 inches? Let's try that again. Can we get to the framing? I'd make multiple copy. You could do this in 3d and on elevations as well. Primary offsets 16 my studs 2400 Maybe they are I didn't check that I didn't catch that. I can. That's right, though. Anyway, you're going to be using your multiple copy. Get it? Okay. Okay, here we go. The icon should look like that. Just make your guide is 24 on center. So there you go. So you could make those copies along a whole wall really quickly. So there's always going to be a little bit manual work done they're there yet there's not going to be an automatic function for blocking that I'm aware of. Chief has a video about blocking Norman who said that? She that Albert for it. Okay. Albert, if you could post the link, that'd be great. She for auto Freeman Rosa blocking at centers of the wall, but I need to manually frame the wall diver request to have this added. Okay, cool. Yeah, I do. You know, once you get good with the you know, you start working with the trim tools and things like that trim and extend, get those get those cad tools down. So you can do this kind of work easily. In an elevation view like this, you can modify this stuff pretty quickly if you're using trim and extend. So sometimes I'll have a wall that doesn't frame quite right, maybe I need to raise this up 12 inches, so I'll just pull that up. And then you can hit the extend tool and extend all your studs up to that and you're done. So not that I would do that in this wall. But again, the framing tools work exactly the same in any situation as they do when you're doing 2d CAD layout. So alright. Alright, we another question anybody? Well, actually, let's go spend that well, maybe we'll come up with some other things here. So let's go over here. And when you spin around. We had some fun with spin the wheel at or some that was really cool wisdom. Wisdom. Kevin, you said that one I believe. I didn't say what did you say about?
Kevin 22:44
You know, I'm going to remind myself what I said.
Dan 22:46
I'll remind you, you had said learn from those that have been there before wisdom is born of experience.
Kevin 22:56
Yeah. And, and experiences born of a lot of challenges. The I think the thing we all learned there was that there was always somebody who understood, possibly more than we did about any given subject. So while it was really fun to be able to share the wisdom of our years, and what we, what we've grown to know, I was really thrilled with the idea that I was also learning from others. I saw that Chad Hoverson just joined us and Holgorsen I don't know how you pronounce your name, Chad, but I'm gonna guess Holgorsen Holgorsen. And Chad and I had a couple of great conversations where I was learning from him. And hopefully, you know, he learned something from me as well. It was just it was the wisdom of that of a group like that was really an incredible experience from the summit across all the days.
Dan 23:54
It really was. And it doesn't have to end at the summit, because we're doing some of that right now. And so you guys on call. Share some of your wisdom to when you you know, when we're trying to answer something, we don't have an answer. And I know you guys are great at this already, but I'm an encourage more of it. Just Just feel free to answer our questions answered the questions as well if you can, I know we can't, with this program I use it's not like zoom where I can just have you, you know, put you up on the call. You have to type it in but feel free to do that. So
Kevin 24:25
I know. One other thing that I think prompted my thought in the first place was the idea that I think people had a preconceived notion of what that summit was or you know, it might be a classroom experience. And I wanted to kind of describe that it was not that it was multiple experiences all in one you know, I don't think I could think who was Aaron or whoever just said about the church, not church camp but summer camp experience. We we met as a group daily And then we would break off into other groups. And those groups extended into feeling like there was even more knowledge to share. So then some of us broke off into those. And we created lunchtime events where we talked about specific topics. I know Robin and I split off into different floors and talked about different things all week, got back together. After lunch as a group, we broke into the two major groups where we had a more advanced set, and then more general set of people attending and then broke for dinner and came back and did it again at 730. At night, we would meet again, and I don't think anyone really expected that they were gonna get all of that stuff a single day.
Dan 25:40
Put a long day, long day is day was really fun. It was really exhausting. But it was very exhilarating at the same time. So it was pretty cool. All right. Thanks, Kevin. Let's, let's spin up the wheel. All right. Water regulations. You commented with this about Robin Robin was doing. Robin was doing some kitchen classes. And they got to talking or kitchen and bath, they got to talk about water. And Kevin, you'd commented to Robin about this. I want us to go ahead and take that question. Real quick. If you don't mind. She said she didn't come into the Oregon shower code. Oh, I was told by Ferguson incorrectly. So Ferguson who sells this kind of stuff. God informed her incorrectly. So Oregon. Yeah, go ahead.
Kevin 26:37
Robin was essentially she was teaching things that mostly had to do with kitchens and baths and where her forte is that and an instruction itself. And she wanted to send along and apologies to the group that she was misinformed and had done some research afterwards and found out that she was misinformed. That I don't know what the what the question was, because I was probably teaching something in a different place. But Robin apologizes and says that, you know, she's now been corrected. The thing that I find interesting about the whole code, contemplation around water and conservation of water, is that while the government said okay, as far as any given fixture is concerned, you can't have more than I think it's 1.8 gallons per minute, they did not restrict the number of fixtures. So you know, for instance, I did a I did a master bath once where the owner said I want a carwash and by the time
Dan 27:35
we had it I've done
Kevin 27:37
we had eight inch main showerhead, we had a 20 inch these are all on separate controls, by the way, they each had their own valves, own temperatures, a 20 inch showerhead, I mean, rain head, then we had the personal one shower on the hose. And then we had, what do we have? And then we had eight body jets. So really, if if if the guy coughed a little bit he was going
John 28:02
to drown that that have a soap cycle in it too.
Kevin 28:06
It did not have the soap say I actually asked him Where are you going to soap up? You know? How can you do this? The Jets? You hear you from all sides, we were pushing 15 gallons per minute, which was all code compliant given the regulations, but it doesn't make a lot of sense given the purpose
John 28:21
of the releases. What do you have to put in for a water heater to keep up with that? Oh, yeah, we
Kevin 28:26
had we had a we had a continuous sorry, what's the word a tankless we had a tankless that was supported by a by a tank then we had a three quarter inch water pipe, we had to put a three inch drain in to catch all the water. So
Dan 28:43
I was gonna say he doesn't need soap because the damn thing gonna wash off skin off anyway. So anyway, I got
Kevin 28:53
to get 1.2 gallons per flush.
Dan 28:58
So there you go. So they might want to work on that code a little bit. Yeah, I've done projects like that, too. In the past where I had, we had three shower bars, two water heads and a handheld. So yeah, I mean, yeah, they couldn't wash the car. Cool. Let's, let's interrupt here.
Dan 29:23
Oh, boy, here's the chat. And this is one you guys that are on the call. This is a really big deal. Okay, this isn't a small deal. This is a big deal. It's kind of hoping we get this one. kind of hoping that kind of overnight. But what is Chet AI? Well, I'm here to summarize. Rene brought this up the first day we were there in which he did
John 29:46
it on the show last time. That's when he brought it up.
Dan 29:48
Oh, did he? Oh, yeah. Last we were there at the event. But he had shown it to me way before that. So that's part of the reason that came up. chatty is Something that we're gonna start seeing a lot about moving forward. So let me just get to the screen. I believe I had open for that somewhere on my computer. See? Here it is. So, so let's say that. And I've been using this ever since. And I've created some pretty cool things with it. Even great for writing love letters, you guys check it out. I turned them off here. So anyway, it's let's say that you want to do an agreement. Let's just type in a question. Write me is to do this. Right. Right. Right. A zine agreement for a show.
Dan 30:59
Alright, let's hit generate, generate response. Oh, great. That was really good. Try that again. So it doesn't work. So I just thought we'd fool you with this. Let me try that, again. It's been idle for a while, maybe I needed to refresh the page. Let's try it again. Not thinking. And here, it's gonna start writing disagreements enter in between, blah, blah, blah. So you could say different kinds of right of educational design agreement, right, a very strict legal design agreement, right, a fun design agreement, try different words and see what kind of other agreements you get up there. It's phenomenal. I mean, ask questions, it's going to give you answers that you can work with. I'm using it to check emails I right now. I might even ask her to write an email for me. One of the things about this. So if you know, if you run a blog, I was just talking to Julian about this yesterday, my marketing person, she's using it. And you got to be careful with it. Because Google knows, because Google can tell if you've taken and plagiarized a lot of stuff using this AI system. So if you're writing a blog, writing things that you're going to post online that Google can search, make sure you make it your own words before you ask this program to do something with it. So I mean, not the best, okay, writer, but I'm not the best in the world. But when I write my story, and I pop it in here, and I let it kind of rewrite it, and then I go through it again, it's like, I feel like I'm really like, I've just hired a good copywriter. And it's really cleaning things up for me. So check it out, I think you'll enjoy it. It's free. I think last I heard you can't beat free. And if you want to get a little bit more, you know, their servers get busy. So maybe that's what happened here. I'm still in the free version. So their server, just chug for a little bit there. For 20 bucks a month, you can get the enhanced version. So it's not expensive. But I can see just a ton of application for this. What about you guys, you see anything that you could use this on? I
John 33:13
definitely helped me with my grammar. Yeah.
Kevin 33:17
Personally, I've seen I've seen this used in different ways. And I've been involved in that industry for a long time prior to my current occupation I wrote wrote a white paper on the future of artificial intelligence back in 1999. So it's been around for a while, the, the exciting thing and the scary thing is that it's maturing, and it's maturing very, very quickly. And I think we're gonna see a major change to our industry in the next five years through artificial intelligence. So
Dan 33:47
we're gonna see it everywhere. So I would say embrace this. Yeah. Get used to it. Because it's here. It's not going to go away. All right. I just told the right story about remodeling using Minnesota. They get it in there. Real whiz bang carpenter. Yeah, you betcha. Carpenters busy the beaver you got it. You got it kiddo. This is great. Dane. I didn't even know we spoke like this in Minnesota Hootenanny because we don't
John 34:21
I don't think we've got a few things to learn yet
Dan 34:25
a little bit overboard on this but let's see how simple it is create a story about remodeling you know give it more give it more details and order your copy and paste your whole blog article in here and have it rewrite it and see what it comes up with. So and you betcha you're gonna get some really good results. So that This to me was for me coming away from the summit was a one of the highlights of the top things I got got out of the summit. As far as new tools to use. This is a big one. When you really touched on Chief that much here so Alright, let's get back to it. Let's let's go speed In the wheel, for the next level, if someone has some questions, but we're gonna get down to q&a is only here in a little bit. Some of those off of there networking, I think we kind of covered that already. Unless you want to expound on that a little bit. You know, networking really is everything Kevin's what you wrote. Business was made with businesses made and friendships were born, I saw both, and I'm looking forward to seeing more. So those that were at the summit, and I'm encouraging, we will encourage them to continue working with each other. So we're gonna see a lot more of that. Alright, let's spin this wheel again. All right, q&a, Anybody got a question? For us?
John 35:46
There was that question that kind of just needs this one here, I can't seem to copy and paste from my user catalog. These are CAD details I've modified and edited to fit our use up here. But they will not paste into my plan. After it's worked for years, anybody seen that when
Dan 36:06
you don't copy and paste from a, from a from the library, you just click and pay per click on the screen, you highlight and click. So I, this is a brand new install of x 15. I haven't even by the way, X 15 is available for everybody. Now, it is public beta. So they don't call it beta anymore. I'm seeing that. So you guys can go into your Digital Locker. And it should be there. If it's not just contact chief. And they'll make it available. You can download it, use it. And it's really, really, it's a really nice upgrade. So they've done some things in here that are really cool. I'm going to talk about this one, even if it doesn't come up on the wheel. So the the let's go find some good details here. So if you have a CAD detail, you should be able to just take that and click on your screen. I wonder Oh, you know, I wonder if it's putting it in on the wrong layer. Maybe that's what's happening. So what I would suggest you do, when you when you put something, when you grab something
John 37:20
from a get CAD detail, you do have to copy and paste it. She's talking library.
Dan 37:27
So now open the CAD detail window, you're saying
John 37:30
it looks to me like you were going to try to put the CAD detail into the plan that what you were doing?
Dan 37:36
Oh, no, you know, I know, that's not what I was doing. Okay. But you're right, I was clicking, I was clicking on the wrong thing and library. But yeah, if you're in the CAD detail, you would have to copy, copy and paste that in your plan. I was looking for the library, I was in the wrong, I was in the wrong Project Browser, not the library. So if we go to the core catalogs, and we go find some CAD Blocks, and we will grab a CAD block, by the way the new library is going to take you look at news too. Yeah, sure. So yeah, I'm really liking what I'm seeing so far. But it will take us getting used to and you can turn the different blocks that you see here on. So if you don't want to see all the details, turn that block off. If you don't want to see tags, turn that block off. So you can open those up to be a little bit more of what you're used to. So it does work pretty well. So let's go just look at our CAD Blocks here. Again, let's add CAD detail, let's grab that one, go back to our floor plan. And click on the page. And there's your detail. Not again, if the details not there, check, you know, right now CAD default layers turned on. That's the layer that the details coming in. So if you've got your own CAD details that you've been doing, and you've been putting them in the user library, make sure that you know check the layer that they're on an easy way to check it is just to go to all layers on disk, go all layers on, click the check mark here and go down here and hit select all and make sure this is a checkmark. So then you'll know every single possible layer in your plan is turned on. And you can click OK. And now you will know that is there or not. This has happened to me before where I was paste and paste in what's going on. It's not working. I turn all layers on and sure enough, he was on a layer that I didn't have on. So check that that might
John 39:26
Marnie had the same thing happened to Yeah,
Dan 39:29
let's try that. And let me know if all the details you are pasting are there now. So go check that out and let me know that was it. I can't think of any or the reason they wouldn't be there. Not right offhand. Anyway. There's always a reason. Except on Tuesdays, it's always operator error. All right. Any other questions?
John 39:55
That's it for now that I see. All right,
Dan 39:57
let's go back to our wheel. And we don't get questions, we just keep spinning to Atlanta, I suppose I could turn some of the Q and A's off. Alright, we'll just pick stuff off the wheel, we don't have to spin it really, but it's just fun to spin the cube. Alright, well, I that choice. It was fun. Renee gave away a bunch of things at the event. And let's just go go to one, let's go to the time till 44. I'm gonna go talk about the X, Y, Z ref reference. Because this, to me is a really big deal. For a lot of people, I
John 40:40
had a client, I had a client that drew a house a couple years ago. And because of the way it was, it kind of had to shift floors and in between to two parts of the house. Yeah. This would have been perfect for that. Because trouble getting stuff to come together, right?
Dan 40:58
So if you're chief beta to in you check the floor reference, it looked like this. Okay, so you notice there's some, right here, there's some things that looking at what looks like this. Now, when we go to x, the newest public beta, and we click the floor number, look at these things that they've added X, Y, Z angle. This is a big deal. If you here's where this is a really big deal. All right, if you have a project that has more than one building, and I know most of you, yeah, that's fine. If you have a house in a garage or separate, you draw it in one plan, or maybe not, maybe you want to draw them in separate plans. So anytime you have a project with multiple buildings in it, you want to create those plans in multiple plan files, you don't want to draw a whole bunch of houses on one plan, because it gets to be a really big file. And it's really difficult to keep track of everything. So what you can do with this new reference, you'll see here, I'm referencing plan two, in plan two. So if I go to let me go back to plan one, let me cancel this. So this is this is a second building I want to put on this lot. So you could do a whole neighborhood like this, you could have 20 houses. And you could have one big plot drawn and you could extra, if that's called extra, all of those houses into different positions into one plan without actually copying and pasting the plan into that. So let's close this. See, what am I doing here? Plan? View? Well, there it is. Okay. So you see, the red building is not really drawn in this plan. It's being referenced from another plan. So this is plan one. Okay. And I'm looking at the floor plan. Here's plan two. Here's the other plan. Okay, so again, you could have halls 12345, as many as you want, as far as I knew. And so what I wanted to do was reference this house here. Now what I did is I drew the house in a different position, because I'm just learning this right now. So I wouldn't, I didn't know, I have to play with these, this X Y offset. And then we can angle the house a little bit tough to see how those works. And we'll get into that as time goes on. I'm not quite sure what XLR means. Do you know what that means? John, or Kevin? Renee would probably know what that means. But that's beyond my scope of knowledge at this
John 43:32
point at that the actual versus the reference.
Dan 43:35
Possibly we don't know, which is supposed to put it in there to make it a different so I'm not sure. But we'll figure all that stuff out. And we'll tell you about it someday. So here I am on plan one. And I want to show both houses so that, you know when I bring up a 3d view. It's going to just show the one house okay, nothing in the backyard. All right. But what I can do is I can extra and save cameras. So what I could do is I can go to my project browser now. And I could go into to the camera cameras that I've saved. And here's the view I saved with the house in the back being referenced into the camera view. So I can open that. And here you go. So now this house here, I can't click on it, change it here, but I could change it in the other in the actual plan I'm working on. And there you go. In fact, I'm curious. Let's just go back to that. And let's go change something on it. Let's change this to a gable. Alright, so I think I still have auto roofs turned on here. Okay, so now I've got a gable. So now if I go back here, this should change to Gable and wallah, it did. So just like having views on layout that automatically update the extra the reference back to the plan you're working on will change. So here are a reference plan one is the one I'm working on. Plan two is the plan that is I want to have that building show up here. And I can specify what lay are set I can then I can define where it's going to be in this plan I'm working on. So it'd be a little tricky when you're doing a whole neighborhood to get those coordinates just right. But that's something that we'll work on, start defining how to do that.
Kevin 45:15
Go over the advantages that you know what this problems that this solves your deal dealing with different height issues for the different houses a different soil or different terrain level? Well,
Dan 45:25
you file I've, I've done neighborhoods before, where I've had a big project with lots of buildings on it. And what I had to do was open each model, I had to turn off the interiors of the house. Because when you have everything in one plan, you start generating these massive amount of surfaces in your plan. And that can really slow your computer down. So what I've done is I've with that particular thing, I did that, and then I created the symbol out of it. Okay, so you just take and you go to 3d, and you go to let's see, you would create 3d, it's under tools, tools, symbol, convert whatever you see on the screen to a symbol, or convert the whole house to a symbol, I create a library full of symbols, and I would come and paste those onto the 3d model. Okay, so if I would change this, if I change the house a little bit, I'd have to go redo that whole process again, this way, I could create one plan that is the whole plot of the whole area with a survey on it and everything. And then I could start drawing each house, and then reference them to certain spots on that one plant. So again, I could reference a whole bunch of houses. And that would work really well too. And then as I go change the plans, my reference neighborhood all be up to date, it's live. So it's a live updates. So if you're just doing single family homes, and that's all you ever do, you really won't have much use for it. If you're doing remodeling, and you want to show existing versus new. Yeah, you're gonna have a use for this. But you won't need that. You won't be needing this, you wouldn't need these last three things because everything would be in the same place. But again, this is something new, that as chief moves forward with making itself a more powerful program. It's a really big deal. For for a lot of people that do multiple
John 47:26
projects. Here's another issue it solves right here.
Dan 47:30
And you can't use the paint floor on a plan when you have multiple buildings the same model. Yeah, exactly. If you change one material, you change the whole all of the models. So anyways, this isn't something we discovered on the last day were there. They had because they had just released the update. And none of us had noticed before that those functions were there as part of beta two. So pretty cool. What does the Help button explain for XLR? I don't know. We don't have enough time for that right now. But we will check it anyway. Excellent. Let's hit the Help button. This is something we discussed too, whenever you need help with something. If the Help button above that. Lets your guy then you figure it out first, then help to help him then hit the Help button. During changes the color of lines and the reference for plant when they're on top floor if the lines are identical properties change? I don't know it makes no sense to me what that says. So we have probably have to hit a related video and
John 48:37
is it just object that you put a checkmark in the in the box? Or do you do something else with it? Mark? I wonder if it just changes which one's the reference in which one is the
Dan 48:49
recapture lost? It's just a plan view thing. Always, always shows up for planning. Okay.
Kevin 48:57
It's it's born of the AutoCAD world. So if somebody came in chief only then they were not exposed to it to begin with. So it's a very foreign concept to people who haven't been in the AutoCAD world. Yeah,
Dan 49:11
yeah. Cool. All right. Any questions and we got any questions?
John 49:20
Here's a question.
Dan 49:23
What is the appropriate next summer approximate approximate approximate, I need to plan in bulk I don't know yet. The builders show next year is on the same week, I would like to have the summit. So it's either going to be before or after that. I will let everybody know as soon as I find out. So Norman, send me an email so that I can get you on the list of contact right away. It will be only one week that I know for sure. We're not going to do two weeks again. It seemed like a really good idea at the time. So we're there. Let's just do it twice, right?
John 50:06
It wasn't too bad. You just had to go to bed every night, instead of staying up till two or three o'clock in the morning.
Dan 50:11
Yeah, Kevin. I did pretty good at that. Number first. So remember, pace yourself, we're gonna be
John 50:23
my biggest adjustment has been not being around people, 14 hours a day.
Dan 50:29
I know.
John 50:31
Being by ourselves again, you know?
Dan 50:34
It's really fun. You know, it
John 50:36
was good. It was good. I'm just saying it's a it's an adjustment, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Coming back to just being the two of us again,
Dan 50:43
John offset railings. Tell me how to do that, because I'll try that even once. So let's go to this deck over here. Plan one. All right, and let's offset a railing. So
John 50:56
let's get a 3d view so we can see it happen.
Dan 50:59
All right, so let's bring up our 3d. I'll just do a one level overview. I'll tile our display by pulling the tab down to the side until it splits spin a bad boy around. So you know, this view doesn't have that building X Ref, ref referenced onto this particular plan. All right. And here, let me show you how you would reference it real quick, because I didn't really show that back to that topic. So you go the floor number. And in this case, now, you'll see that I closed plan number two, I believe, let's see if it's listed here. Yeah, it's because the plan is open and one of the tabs, I can reference it right here. If it wasn't open, I would hit choose an existing plan and then go to I can pick any plan anywhere on my computer, that I'll go to plan two, now it's being referenced, set to minus 74. Not will show up there, you can change the camera style that you know that you want to use for that. And I'm set to one level or review. So that's why we're seeing it like that. Anyway, how do we offset this? Really, let's do all three railings at once and move them. What do we want to move into the outside of the board of the room? That makes?
John 52:12
Yeah, you can you move the rail, the rail and balusters separate from the posts, right. And then you can move the whole system as well.
Dan 52:23
So I'm going to select the railings in so where do we start?
John 52:27
Alright, so go to first of all, you probably want to set your wall thickness and get your balusters set the width how you want them.
Dan 52:35
So whatever we want there right now it's three and a half.
John 52:39
Let's just do six and then we'll do six inch posts as well.
Dan 52:41
All right. So we set the rail thickness extension Newell's and then we go to our Newell's and balusters we're gonna change those to six as well. Okay, now we got heavy posts.
John 52:55
Yep. So let's make that rail, the rail, top, top and bottom rail, just a two by four, something smaller than that. Right now what you're doing fill in, fill in the wall cavity, right?
Dan 53:06
So we want to go to rails and make these right now it's fitting. So yeah, okay, so we'll go like that. So they're gonna, it's probably a little goofy, but they'll give you the idea.
John 53:17
Cut out the rails right in the middle, right? Correct. So let's go to the I think it's the rail Newell's and balusters first, I think, go ahead and select that. And then there's a horizontal offset there. Go ahead and offset it like an inch or an inch and a half.
Dan 53:36
Move move the top rail in the bottom rail,
John 53:40
it actually it actually moved the posts moved everything moved them moved the newel posts
Dan 53:44
over so now let because we're under and because we're under Newell's and posts, okay, right let's
John 53:49
let's go to your picture then so we can see what happened.
Dan 53:56
Move them in,
John 53:57
moved again. Move the nose and from the edge of the deck. Good. So I should check. So now let's go back, go back to the to the dialogue.
Dan 54:09
So I need to check at this time I need to make it No Okay, go ahead, leave
John 54:15
it just leave it right there. Alright, go to go to rail style now. Real Style. Now there's another horizontal right here. Okay. Make that one minus an inch and a half. And that should move the noodles back out to the edge of the deck and keep the railing and in the same position. Same relationship to the rules.
Dan 54:40
Okay, so if we wanted to move everything to the outside of the deck, we cannot go.
John 54:45
Now you would go minus six to the outside of the deck and you could set the bottom.
Dan 54:49
Yeah, so we could move this so the posts could be right right on the outside of the deck
John 54:55
and then we'd want to set the then then you're right didn't realize that's where he wanted to go with it.
Dan 54:59
That's okay. But what gets the other side, we could extend the balusters done along the edge of the deck. Because we can do all that separately now, so we're getting close. I mean, we can do rim mounted, balanced, or
John 55:13
remounted balusters and posts
Dan 55:15
in posts. Who are we gonna have the post, you know, inside the room. But the balusters on the outside of the room. I mean, so that looks like we have to figure out again, this first time I've even John showed me about when we were leaving, that they added that and what that must have been part of the new public release too, because you were trying that earlier in the week. And it wasn't working out. So I think we got that fixed. So
John 55:42
you can also stairways also have it now so that you can offset the railing off from the edge. With with the with the Newell's. So that's kind of a cool thing to be able to get stairways closer to looking right.
Dan 55:54
Yeah, yeah. So we'll play with that. And we'll report back to you will our next our next summit. Our next designer show, I think we will discuss probably the next couple of these shows, let's discuss the new features in chief, because there are a bunch of them. And some of them are really good. You know, I like the new D noise feature that they have for rendering some of that stuff. So live materialists live material is the media. So go ahead and download that. So we're just about done here for the day. Thank you guys for being here. I do want to suggest I want to mention one thing. Next up on our list. And go to Chief Experts Academy. And you might see this on the show page here. But Jolene and I are going to put together a course and talking about we're gonna get into branding and marketing for your business. One of the comments that we had from people at the shows are really busy. Why should they market? And it's like, well, not when you're busy. That is the best time to market. And a lot of times when people ask me, I'm busy, why do I need to market? My first question, then are you getting the kind of jobs that you like, you're getting the kind of projects and customers that you really want to do and that you really people you really want to work for. More often than not, I'll say yeah, most of them but not all of them or not, not really liking the kind of stuff I'm getting so so your brand, your marketing your music pictures from the actual Summit. By the way, though, that's that's what you want your brand to do. You want your brand to bring you the kind of clients that you want to work with the type of projects you want to do. So be sure to use your branding and marketing to do that. And so Julia is something a really, really nice course it's going to be a 12 month commitment, meet once a month and really dig into things. And there's going to be some done for you parts to the to this as well if you elect to go that route. So, look, look to that. If you click on this, you could get on the waitlist and we'll be sure to let you know, you'll get early access to everything. And we'll notify you when it's ready to roll. So check it out. And we've got that coming up. We will be doing some administered launching her and digging into the Mastering course again. So I'm hoping to do a new online series with that. Kevin, I know you've got some things that we'll be working on together. So we're excited about that. And kind of go from there. So and we just got we're not slowing down one bit, guys. We got lots of cool things coming for you. We're looking forward to helping you in any way we can reach out to us if you need help on anything. With that, I'll say goodbye you guys. John. Kevin, you want to add anything?
John 58:59
Nope. Everybody have a great weekend. Kevin, you
Dan 59:01
don't have any more words. Come on, man. What's up with the time's up? Oh, well, not for you. Thanks, guys. Everybody. Have a great weekend. We'll see you next time. This is John signing off. Designer show. Bye. For now.
